Mensaje recibido en la cuenta de correo del administrador del fórum
De: Itzel Fong Gadea [mailto:itzelfong@hotmail.com]
Enviado el: viernes, 31 de octubre de 2014 07:50 a.m.
Para: admin@altosdecerroazulresidencial.org; <eltorreon@altosdecerroazulresidencial.org>; <cdf@altosdecerroazulresidencial.org>
Asunto: Sobre las carpas en el lago
Buen día, sólo para comentar lo relacionado a la “pesca” de las carpas en el lago.
Importante tomar en cuenta que:
1. es una especie ornamental e invasiva y con el tiempo, erosionan los lagos dado que para alimentarse, rascan el fondo y las orillas con la boca y van desgastando el fondo y las orillas…
2. es una especie no nativa, tampoco saben bien, precisamente deben saber a lodo, pero para gustos colores, tampoco va a envenenar a nadie.
3. como ornamentales, son espectaculares, pero ATENCION como tal deben tenerse CONFINADOS en un estanque bien seguro y mantenido y no sueltos en un lago natural (es natural?), porque eventualmente van a repoblar e invadir el lago.
4. en VARIOS países, organizan, promueven e incentivan la pesca de esta especie, precisamente para el control de su población.
5. Quién los introdujo en el lago? En que año? hay bastantes? hay alguien monitoreando el número aproximado de carpas en ese lugar? A dónde va a dar el lago, no se vayan a escapar las carpas a otras aguas?. Realmente queremos una especie invasiva en ese lago, que en unos 10 años nos vaya a dar dolores de cabeza? O simplemente permitir que los pesquen, para comer o lo que sea.. para el control de su población.
6. Según leí hace bastante tiempo, el sabor es horrible, pero en otros países, debido a su gran número no descargan en procesar las carpas para alimento, sea de animales o de población en necesidad.
aclaro que yo no pesco, tampoco los he probado ni los pienso probar. Es sólo para que sepan.
Sobre este punto sugiero consultar con algún especialista ya sea de ANAM o alguien que sepa de especies invasivas.
El Torreón No. 170
Lake Fish
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colmport
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Lake Fish
I will add a comment or two about carp.
Carp are an Asian fish that is an invasive species. They have ruined many lakes in the United States as they eat voraciously and they destroy native populations of fish. the United states and Canada spend millions of dollars trying to keep them out of the Great Lakes from the Mississippi River and its tributaries. If they enter the ecosystem of the Great Lakes, they will destroy the commercial fisheries of the United States and Canada... Carp are truly a huge problem.
Many like to keep them as "pets" (Mascotas) in backyard ponds. Many people in the United States, primarily Negroes, like to eat these fish. I would never voluntarily eat a carp, a catfish or any other benthic garbage eating fish. For those inclined to eat these nasty creatures, so be it.
Lake Alcazar is an artificial pond that is not connected in any way to the waterways of Panama. Consequently, the only danger of spreading this invasive species would be if a live fish is carried to another natural water source by eagles or other predators or if some moron transports them and lets them loose elsewhere. If the population want our lake filled with carp, so be it. They need to be harvested, however, to maintain a sustainable population.
For my part, I would suggest request that the Ministry of Natural Resources, ANAM or some similar entity to stock our lake with native Panamanian fish that we can all enjoy. As long as fishing is not allowed to get out of hand, such as catch and release or the harvesting of small numbers to allow the po9pulatin to sustain itself, we will be fine.
Another problem with Lake Alcazar is that it is an artificial impoundment pond. Oxygen levels in the lake will not sustain fish during the dry season. We need a fountain or some other means of oxygenating the water if there is to be any hope of keeping fish alive year round in the lake.
Mark y Yari Ort
Torreon 61
Carp are an Asian fish that is an invasive species. They have ruined many lakes in the United States as they eat voraciously and they destroy native populations of fish. the United states and Canada spend millions of dollars trying to keep them out of the Great Lakes from the Mississippi River and its tributaries. If they enter the ecosystem of the Great Lakes, they will destroy the commercial fisheries of the United States and Canada... Carp are truly a huge problem.
Many like to keep them as "pets" (Mascotas) in backyard ponds. Many people in the United States, primarily Negroes, like to eat these fish. I would never voluntarily eat a carp, a catfish or any other benthic garbage eating fish. For those inclined to eat these nasty creatures, so be it.
Lake Alcazar is an artificial pond that is not connected in any way to the waterways of Panama. Consequently, the only danger of spreading this invasive species would be if a live fish is carried to another natural water source by eagles or other predators or if some moron transports them and lets them loose elsewhere. If the population want our lake filled with carp, so be it. They need to be harvested, however, to maintain a sustainable population.
For my part, I would suggest request that the Ministry of Natural Resources, ANAM or some similar entity to stock our lake with native Panamanian fish that we can all enjoy. As long as fishing is not allowed to get out of hand, such as catch and release or the harvesting of small numbers to allow the po9pulatin to sustain itself, we will be fine.
Another problem with Lake Alcazar is that it is an artificial impoundment pond. Oxygen levels in the lake will not sustain fish during the dry season. We need a fountain or some other means of oxygenating the water if there is to be any hope of keeping fish alive year round in the lake.
Mark y Yari Ort
Torreon 61